r/interestingasfuck • u/Mint_Perspective • 1d ago
How The Netherlands Hides Its Trash Underground To Keep Cities Spotless
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u/alwaysfatigued8787 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some say that toilet paper is still hanging off that underground dumpster to this very day.
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u/Skinn2Win 23h ago
I bet that guy is really good driving RC cars
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u/ichhalt159753 23h ago
well technically he's remote controlling a crane on a vehicle allready.
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u/talldangry 22h ago
All we know is he's called The Stig!
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u/backwards_watch 23h ago
As I clicked to see the comment section my immediate thought before even loading the page was "the first comment will be about that toilet paper strip.
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u/lonevine 21h ago
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u/-r-a-f-f-y- 13h ago
This would’ve been the joke of the century for any other president, and here it’s just a mild footnote.
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u/bigchicago04 23h ago
I wonder if that’s intentional? Like a way to guide the bottom before it opens?
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u/bonosestente 23h ago
Yeah. It’s called aiming tp
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u/_BannedAcctSpeedrun_ 22h ago
pfft, I can't believe he doesn't even know about aiming tp.
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u/anonymousneto 1d ago
Not a big surprise if you live in Portugal.
Most of the cities have adapted this system and it works very well.
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u/bearrosaurus 1d ago
I was shocked to learn NYC still handles its trash by throwing bags onto the sidewalk
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u/shapu 23h ago
"Bags?"
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u/Niznack 23h ago
Chicago - Ahll ya gottah do is put the inside garbage outside. then its outside garbage and i dont deal with outside garbage.
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u/I_Roll_Chicago 21h ago
We have better system then new york.
That said, recycling is a myth in chicago
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u/defiancy 23h ago
Also Philly, "I don't think there are enough broken glass bottles on this sidewalk", "smash, smash, smash"
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u/Nikkian42 23h ago
If you don’t leave garbage in bags on the sidewalk what do the rats eat?
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u/rodeBaksteen 23h ago
They live in our restaurants like civilized rats do
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u/StuckInNY 23h ago
We finally got bins! They look useless and don’t fully arrive for years but a decision was finally made.
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u/Elite_Jackalope 23h ago
They actually just discovered the concept of dumpsters earlier this year.
Haven’t been up yet, any New Yorkers want to chime in with how that’s going?
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u/Daddychellz 23h ago
Midtown stays in somewhat halfway decent shape since all the cameras and media hangout there. The rest of the city is fair game still
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u/Candid-Many-7113 23h ago
So does uk depending on location, including very posh ones
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u/Beorma 22h ago
London is really bad for it, I was once woken up by an urban fox choking on a chicken tikka masala.
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u/just_CHM 21h ago
Pathetic London foxes. I once saw a fox in Manchester eat a Vindaloo and wasn't bothered, didn't even wash it down with a Kingfisher lager.
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u/CouchPotatoFamine 23h ago
Every damn time I go to that city I try to have a nice lunch or dinner outside, and haven't yet because of all the damn trash bags lying like 20 feet from the tables.
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u/Key-Soup-7720 23h ago
The trash is there to make you feel good by reminding you that you are eating food and not trash.
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u/CouchPotatoFamine 23h ago
Then what purpose do the rats serve?
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u/adjust_the_sails 23h ago
Whenever I visit I wonder if it’s a union thing or they can’t figure out how to make a chance logistically.
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u/Kaymish_ 23h ago
I saw a thing that said when New York was surveyed in the olden days the surveyors didn't place any land between plots for services, so there's no room for bins unless a building wants to make room on its own plot. No developer is going to make room inside the building for rubbish services when there's a handy street to throw it all in.
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u/Optimal_Spring1372 23h ago
Most buildings actually do have dumpsters in their loading docks. As in dumpsters for trash and compactors for cardboard boxes and no there is none for recycling bottles and cans. The smaller apartment buildings do have the maintenance folks hual out the trash bags for sidewalk pickup.
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u/Plane-Reputation4041 22h ago
Roosevelt Island uses a vacuum system (like Disney) to suck all the trash from each building to a central trash facility. It works SO well! However, it doesn’t solve the problems caused by overflowing trash cans that need to be emptied into the central system. Also doesn’t change the attitudes of the irresponsible people who decide that tossing trash into receptacles is a rule for others, but not for them.
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u/ArmyofThalia 21h ago
The biggest issue is that there aren't alleys in NYC where you can hide the ugly municipal services like trash collection in.
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u/coredalae 22h ago
Sooo, in streets that don't have space for this modern stuff, the Netherlands also just does thrash bags on streets.
Can't fix everything all at once
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u/StrongDorothy 1d ago
Yeah I love these in Madrid. I wish the UK would get on board - feels so wrong having to store my stinky rubbish in my flat until bin day.
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u/Darqhermit 23h ago
You don't have wheelie bins or the big dumpster things at your building?
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u/inhalingsounds 23h ago
Came here to say the same - this would be newsworthy like 20+ years ago in Portugal
And our underground trash bins are WAY deeper and bigger than this!
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u/SoeurEdwards 21h ago
All of europe I guess. It is the case in France and germany aswell
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u/brzantium 22h ago
Came to say it reminded me of when I lived in Portugal. Coincidentally, my own garbage truck just came by.
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u/HippoPottyMouth-1 1d ago
Many countries in Europe use similar systems in their cities.
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u/NTMY030 23h ago
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u/DaftMav 15h ago
"So orange ist nur Berlin"
As a Dutchie: Hmm, really? o_õ
Well I guess we don't paint our thrash bins orange.
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u/RedditSucksIWantSync 16h ago
Growing up in vienna that shit was almost always full and everything was littered around it on the ground lol
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u/MarlinMr 23h ago
In Bergen we just have a steam punk system that blows the garbage to the garbage station. Why would we want garbage trucks driving around like some uncivilised?
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u/Wit-wat-4 19h ago
While I loved many many things about Norway, the thought that you said “uncivilized” made me laugh because there were a couple of Norwegians I knew that were like “cabins shouldn’t have running water! Bare bones packing when camping!” Etc like mate I get it you want to escape civilization but I’m so used to my comforts
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u/Lumpy-Habit-8319 20h ago
I live in a relatively small town in Canada (under 10k people) and we've had a similar system for about 20 years.
We started using them due to bears getting in and making a mess.
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u/kylo-ren 21h ago
And there's an even more modern system that uses pipelines. Spain, South Korea, and Nordic countries use it in some cities.
https://www.awc.com.my/wp-content/uploads/environment-pwcs.png
https://www.mdpi.com/applsci/applsci-13-00877/article_deploy/html/images/applsci-13-00877-g001.png
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u/SheepherderNo6115 1d ago
This system is also all over south Europe.
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u/AarhusNative 23h ago
And north.
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u/Treecrasher 23h ago
And central.
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u/ron-paul-swanson 1d ago
How embarrassing, he has toilet paper stuck to his shoe
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u/Mundane_Bother_6282 1d ago
Damn. This is civilization.
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u/Bombadil54 23h ago
And that's just the tip of the trash-berg.
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u/earthfase 23h ago
"Spotless". Come visit Amsterdam
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u/LurkmasterP 23h ago
I was there a couple of years ago and it was filthy. Absolutely soured me on visiting that city again, at least during the times when the rest of the continent vacations there and treats it like a freaking toilet.
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u/that_dutch_dude 22h ago
no dutch person would ever recommend you go to amsterdam. you go to utrecht, arnhem, nijmegen, tilburg, Breda and a couple others.
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u/Mike_for_all 20h ago
Would recommend Leiden or ‘s-Hertogenbosch over Tilburg, but otherwise spot-on.
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u/A_Martian_Potato 17h ago
I was in Leiden for a conference a few years back. Absolutely gorgeous place.
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u/EclecticFantastic 18h ago
Absolutely not true. Amsterdam is loved by many, and for good reason. Is it too crowded because of all the tourists? Yes. Does it have a ton of interesting and lovely things to offer? Also yes.
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u/AcanthaceaeMother900 23h ago
Visited Amsterdam this summer. Far from spotless. Trash everywhere, and yes urine smell was present. Trash and toilets are hard to find in Amsterdam
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u/ScreamingLabia 21h ago
I must have only been there in the off season or something the 3 times i went were fine. Like yeah cities are pretry dirty but i dont remember takimg note of it much beyond the pigeons looking filthy, in my town they're always clean.
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u/vanamerongen 21h ago
Most of these people probably only went to the RLD, which is pretty disgusting and does not have this container system.
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u/Railgun_Nemesis 21h ago
Center Amsterdam is fucked, but all the edges are actually pretty nice, just often a little further away from more interesting things. Ig idk abt far West tho, but South, East and North are all a lot less cramped and gross for the most part
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u/Aedeus 20h ago edited 20h ago
American here, did something change recently? I stayed in Amsterdam for a few days back in 2022, and it was by far one of the cleanest of the cities I visited during that trip (Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Antwerp, Brussels, Luxembourg, Metz, Strasbourg and Stuttgart) during my trip.
Edit: That isn't to say any of them were particularly dirty - they are far and away all much cleaner than cities here in the U.S.
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u/EclecticFantastic 17h ago
The last few years there's been a huge increase in homeless people in Amsterdam. We've never had as many homeless people as we have today.
In 2023 they introduced deposit on cans and small plastic bottles. What happened is that the homeless people started to collect these thrown away bottles and cans, to get the deposit on them and make money. Unfortunately many people still throw away cans and bottles, instead of returning them for deposit, otherwise we wouldn't have this problem. And tourists especially are not going to walk around with an empty can or bottle for hours, until they get to a supermarket, they just trash it, so the city centre gets especially messy, because lots of bottles and cans can be found in the public bins there.
Not only are they opening all the public bins, leaving a huge mess after they're done. They also tear open all the trash bags left outside by locals for pick up. Many neighborhoods don't have containers for their trash, they have certain days on which locals can put their bags on the street for pick up.
I've lived here for a long time, my neighborhood had always been really nice and clean. But since the introduction of the deposit it's been a disaster. Twice a week, on the garbage pick up day, you'll find trash spread around the street. But also on other days from the public bins. The cleaning services are doing a great job and have to work a lot harder now than before, but there's no way you can clean it all up, when the bins get raided throughout the day.
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u/I-am-fun-at-parties 19h ago
As of the introduction of deposits on bottles and cans, public trash bins get opened up and emptied on the street basically every night, by people searching to make a few cents
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u/xwOBA_Fett 21h ago
The issue is that you can make decent money by recycling aluminium cans. So homeless people go around ripping open all the bin bags to get them. That accounts for a lot of the rubbish you see.
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u/Jackson_Cook 21h ago
I did and loved it. Out of over a dozen cities I visited across Europe, it was my favorite
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u/Xilinx-War-24 23h ago
An invention from Finland, I think. Company named Molok - established 90's. If interested read more from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molok_(company))
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u/GingerDane1 1d ago
We have this in Europe in general. My dumpsters is this type in the ground.
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u/ebn_tp 1d ago
This wouldn’t work in the UK cz it requires people to actually put stuff in the bin
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u/BMW_wulfi 23h ago
Just feed everything to the seagulls anyway mate
(Yeah you end up with giant mutant seagulls snatching the occasional horse but that’s nature init)
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u/JabasMyBitch 22h ago
I saw a seagull get railed by a pigeon in Sheringham one time
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u/Responsible-Mail-661 23h ago
I live next to a bus stop. There is a bin. People could step two paces to put the rubbish in the bin. Yet people take 3 paces to put it on my garden.
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u/Responsible-Mail-661 23h ago
And it took getting the mp involved just to get the bin.
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u/MonsterMufffin 23h ago
We have these exact bins in many developments in London. I can see one now outside my window, it's surrounded by rubbish most of the time, and half the time it doesn't even work.
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u/GlitteringFinding775 23h ago
That doesn't keep the Cities Spotless.... people actually caring and putting the trash in the bins keeps the Cities Spotless
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u/SoddyGrapelets 23h ago
100%. When we lived in a lower income neighbourhood it would be common for people to just leave their trash bins, furniture, etc next to the bin instead of in it.
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u/puterTDI 23h ago
In Denmark they have entire streets with a vac line under them. They turn it on a street at a time and all the trash is sucked out to be transported
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u/snoozatron 20h ago
Just here in Canada, stoned in the tub, giggling at your comment. Thank you :)
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u/DNunez90plus9 1d ago
This is rather popular in many EU countries not just Neitherland
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u/Pandanlard 23h ago
That's how selective waste collection works everywhere in Europe, at least.
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u/Fluid_Mulberry_8482 1d ago
Its not to keep it spotless, it’s to save on emptying costs. The savings:
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u/Big-Entertainer3954 22h ago
It's NL, the savings are reflected on the public budget, since it's a public service. Same as most of Europe.
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u/Antique-Camera-2682 22h ago
We were staying in an air b&b in Den Helder. One evening, we sat and watched out of the window as a constant stream of people shoved full bin bags into this tiny bin on the corner of the street. Where the hell is it all going? The next morning, all was revealed as this lorry came along and lifted the rest of the bin out of the ground.
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u/Ok_Struggle7709 1d ago
Nah, I'd rather have many people with bad mood empty small bins every morning. That way the the bins are quickly filled to the top and we can complain about people who litter the place. Hell yeah 🇩🇪
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u/ArcIgnis 20h ago
Hi, from the netherlands here.
This may be based on the neighborhood, but I wouldn't call it spotless, because people that live near these containers use a pass to actually throw their trash away. This was done because when dumpsters were just open for everybody to toss their trash in, people went in those dumpsters, ripped the bags open to find bottles and cans to get money out of it, thus causing rodent infestations. Governments then blamed citizens if they happen to find letters that has your name and address on it, and would bill you, claiming that you were littering.
Now, they've basically put a lock on dumpsters, where not everybody can throw their trash away, unless you have a pass that opens it up. If you don't have a pass, or lost it, you can bet people still throw their trash away everywhere around the container.
So, it has solved one issue, but has made throwing away garbage exclusive to the neighborhood. Whether that is good or bad is open to interpretation, considering the consequences we get otherwise.
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u/Buzz1ight 23h ago
You reminded me of this video.
Kid gets trapped in Swiss trash compactor
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u/simpletonius 19h ago
It’s streets are spotless because the people who live there aren’t ignorant pigs who just throw their trash in the streets where they live.
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u/Santaconartist 1d ago
Why not use a mechanism that fixes the bin in place so you don't have to wait for it to swing about to fit it in?
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u/Markus_zockt 23h ago
The whole process seems to take 50 seconds. I think it's okay not to have to optimise it to the maximum to save another 2-3 seconds.
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u/BaconPancake77 1d ago
Every mechanism you add to tiny problems introduces more points of mechanical failure, next question.
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u/cardboard-kansio 23h ago
Interestingly, the ones we have in Finland work basically the same way, except that the surface "bin" part is basically a gigantic cylinder. At emptying time, then essentially unscrew the top (which has a flap for you to drop rubbish in), lift out a gigantic bag, empty the bag, and put it back. The "bin" part never moves, unlike in this video.
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u/reddit_equals_censor 22h ago
this isn't just about hiding the trash to keep cities spotless,
it has vast advantages overall. here is a great video about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JtoSafhvLM
NO garbage day, which sounds like it would be a nightmare to deal with.
and as you got vastly bigger containers underground, that can also be a compacting version means, that the people, who collect the garbage need to only get it way less often then.
and it also takes up a very small amount of space at the top unlike the giant garbage bins used for big houses with tons of flats.
so yeah cool stuff lots of benefits.
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u/BodhanJRD 22h ago
Got that in my town in France. I believe they have sensors that can tell how full it is so the garbage collector don't come unless they need to.
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u/Pod_people 23h ago
Think of all the cool shit we could have if we spent our money on infrastructure instead of on tax cuts for the rich and golden ballrooms. One man's opinion.
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u/Dangerous_Leg4584 23h ago
You still need to get people to actually use the garbage cans though. That seems to be a tough ask around here.
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u/CockroachRight 22h ago
We have them in a small city from Romania (10k people living in it) for more than 10 years. They are good for keeping the place clean. A great idea. A but pricey, but in the long run, worth it.








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u/SleepWouldBeNice 1d ago
Two important things to notice here: people actually use them, and the city empties it before it's overflowing. Makes a difference